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	<title>Comments on: FHA Streamline Refinance: Some Rules Effective January 1, 2009</title>
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		<title>By: Carl Pruitt</title>
		<link>http://fhaloanadvice.com/fha-streamline-refinance-some-changes-effective-january-1-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-1928</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl Pruitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 16:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kim,
This is a dilemma faced by many people right now. For a couple of years, the difference between the 5/1 Hybrid ARM start rate and the 30 year fixed rate was so small that it made this a no brainer decision. Many days, the 5/1 rate was actually higher than the 30 year fixed rate! Now the hybrid ARMs have once again reached a point where they may benefit some people.

There are risks with an ARM. The 5/1 is fixed for 5 years, and has a 1% limit on how much the rate can increase each time once the rate becomes adjustable and can only adjust one time each year, but you never know what rates are going to do. My advice is to make your decision based upon a) how much you will save over the five year period and b) the worst possible scenario for rate increases after that. Do not count on a new streamline refinance if you decide to go with the ARM and don&#039;t count on rates going down any further. This way, you can live with the worst case and be thrilled if rates go down further and you get the best case. 

In your case you would have at least 5 years at the 4.25% followed by an increase to 5.25% the next year and then 6.25% the next. You could potentially save a lot of money with that lower rate. This is a particularly good plan if you plan to sell and move before 6 years. 

It is accepted under the guidelines at this time to do another streamline refinance at any time, however take a look at the costs for this one. Your next streamline will cost just as much and possibly be more difficult to complete. When you do not go above your original loan amount, no appraisal is required. Usually, on a 2nd streamline refinance done relatively close to the the first one, the amount needed for closing costs and prepaids won&#039;t fit within the guidelines and a new appraisal is required. If the market is down in your area when the time comes for this appraisal, your next streamline refi may be shot down quickly.

Carl Pruitt
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kim,<br />
This is a dilemma faced by many people right now. For a couple of years, the difference between the 5/1 Hybrid ARM start rate and the 30 year fixed rate was so small that it made this a no brainer decision. Many days, the 5/1 rate was actually higher than the 30 year fixed rate! Now the hybrid ARMs have once again reached a point where they may benefit some people.</p>
<p>There are risks with an ARM. The 5/1 is fixed for 5 years, and has a 1% limit on how much the rate can increase each time once the rate becomes adjustable and can only adjust one time each year, but you never know what rates are going to do. My advice is to make your decision based upon a) how much you will save over the five year period and b) the worst possible scenario for rate increases after that. Do not count on a new streamline refinance if you decide to go with the ARM and don&#8217;t count on rates going down any further. This way, you can live with the worst case and be thrilled if rates go down further and you get the best case. </p>
<p>In your case you would have at least 5 years at the 4.25% followed by an increase to 5.25% the next year and then 6.25% the next. You could potentially save a lot of money with that lower rate. This is a particularly good plan if you plan to sell and move before 6 years. </p>
<p>It is accepted under the guidelines at this time to do another streamline refinance at any time, however take a look at the costs for this one. Your next streamline will cost just as much and possibly be more difficult to complete. When you do not go above your original loan amount, no appraisal is required. Usually, on a 2nd streamline refinance done relatively close to the the first one, the amount needed for closing costs and prepaids won&#8217;t fit within the guidelines and a new appraisal is required. If the market is down in your area when the time comes for this appraisal, your next streamline refi may be shot down quickly.</p>
<p>Carl Pruitt<br />
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
		<link>http://fhaloanadvice.com/fha-streamline-refinance-some-changes-effective-january-1-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-1901</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 11:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, I&#039;am looking into doing a streamline fha refinance.The lender said he had two options for me. The first is a fha 30 yr fixed at 5.5% and the secound is a fha 5 yr arm at 4.25%. I currently have a fha 30 fixed at 6.125. I&#039;ve always heard arms were not good choices. He assured me that rates have not hit there all time low yet and when they do he&#039;ll refinance it for me. I asked if i had to watch the rates to determine when I should refinance and he said he would be the one to watch the rates and notify me before my 5 year arm is up. What do you think of the fha 5 year arm and if I go that route can I refinance at anytime before my 5 years is up?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I&#8217;am looking into doing a streamline fha refinance.The lender said he had two options for me. The first is a fha 30 yr fixed at 5.5% and the secound is a fha 5 yr arm at 4.25%. I currently have a fha 30 fixed at 6.125. I&#8217;ve always heard arms were not good choices. He assured me that rates have not hit there all time low yet and when they do he&#8217;ll refinance it for me. I asked if i had to watch the rates to determine when I should refinance and he said he would be the one to watch the rates and notify me before my 5 year arm is up. What do you think of the fha 5 year arm and if I go that route can I refinance at anytime before my 5 years is up?</p>
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		<title>By: Carl Pruitt</title>
		<link>http://fhaloanadvice.com/fha-streamline-refinance-some-changes-effective-january-1-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-1523</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl Pruitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sandra,
That will all depend on running the exact numbers on both the streamline and paying down the rate. You are right that a streamline refinance is going to cost the same in closing costs again, however buying down the rate by a point may cost as much right now. It isn&#039;t as simple as paying 1 point decreases your rate by a point. The buydown will be based on current mortgage bond market prices, which vary by the hour. In addition, you can essentially keep the same remaining term for the loan when you do a streamline refinance. In fact, I encourage people to look into keeping their payment the same and decreasing the term when they are able to get a lower interest rate.

Your broker may not have been offering you the par rate and so would have lost all their profit on the loan if you decided to buy down the rate. This might have been behind the effort to dissuade you from buying down the rate. On the other hand, while 5.25% might have been paying the broker 1% in yield spread premium a week ago, it would not be paying that today. 

Bottom line, though, is that you should be getting a comparison of the exact costs on your specific loan in order to make this decision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sandra,<br />
That will all depend on running the exact numbers on both the streamline and paying down the rate. You are right that a streamline refinance is going to cost the same in closing costs again, however buying down the rate by a point may cost as much right now. It isn&#8217;t as simple as paying 1 point decreases your rate by a point. The buydown will be based on current mortgage bond market prices, which vary by the hour. In addition, you can essentially keep the same remaining term for the loan when you do a streamline refinance. In fact, I encourage people to look into keeping their payment the same and decreasing the term when they are able to get a lower interest rate.</p>
<p>Your broker may not have been offering you the par rate and so would have lost all their profit on the loan if you decided to buy down the rate. This might have been behind the effort to dissuade you from buying down the rate. On the other hand, while 5.25% might have been paying the broker 1% in yield spread premium a week ago, it would not be paying that today. </p>
<p>Bottom line, though, is that you should be getting a comparison of the exact costs on your specific loan in order to make this decision.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 07:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi I was wondering what would be more beneficial: buying points before closing or doing an FHA streamline later on? Right now, we have a rate of 5.25 on a 400k loan and were thinking of buying down 1 point to bring our payment lower. We figure we would recoup our money in over two years and since we are planning to stay for more than 5 years, it would be worth it. However, our mortgage broker advised us not buy the point and to consider an FHA streamline when (if) rates lower down the road. 

At first I thought it was a good idea to streamline but it seems to me that even though it would be easy to refinance I would have to start all over plus still pay closing costs which could be equivalent to how much we would pay for the point to lower our interest rate now. Am I missing something? Any advice?

Thank you,

Sandra</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi I was wondering what would be more beneficial: buying points before closing or doing an FHA streamline later on? Right now, we have a rate of 5.25 on a 400k loan and were thinking of buying down 1 point to bring our payment lower. We figure we would recoup our money in over two years and since we are planning to stay for more than 5 years, it would be worth it. However, our mortgage broker advised us not buy the point and to consider an FHA streamline when (if) rates lower down the road. </p>
<p>At first I thought it was a good idea to streamline but it seems to me that even though it would be easy to refinance I would have to start all over plus still pay closing costs which could be equivalent to how much we would pay for the point to lower our interest rate now. Am I missing something? Any advice?</p>
<p>Thank you,</p>
<p>Sandra</p>
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		<title>By: Carl Pruitt</title>
		<link>http://fhaloanadvice.com/fha-streamline-refinance-some-changes-effective-january-1-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-1326</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl Pruitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 21:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bridgette,
I&#039;m very surprised that any lender would put such a promise in writing since the old UFMIP is always credited against the new UFMIP on a streamline refinance. In fact, that is now the only way to get any credit at all for unused UFMIP. If you pay off the loan by selling the property or by refinancing with a conventional loan, you would get no form of refund at all.

You can certainly complain to the state authorities about the misleading information, but I imagine it will cause no more than a reprimand since I know there were documents in the loan closing package that let you know how the refund is issued. These disclosures are included with every FHA loan closing. In addition, since the way it was handled - as a credit against your new UFMIP - is the only way FHA allows it to be done, there are unfortunately no legally recognizable financial damages from the misrepresentation.

However, if you complain to the management of the lender, you may get some help. They usually don&#039;t like for their loan officers to leave a trail of unhappy customers by making such misrepresentations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bridgette,<br />
I&#8217;m very surprised that any lender would put such a promise in writing since the old UFMIP is always credited against the new UFMIP on a streamline refinance. In fact, that is now the only way to get any credit at all for unused UFMIP. If you pay off the loan by selling the property or by refinancing with a conventional loan, you would get no form of refund at all.</p>
<p>You can certainly complain to the state authorities about the misleading information, but I imagine it will cause no more than a reprimand since I know there were documents in the loan closing package that let you know how the refund is issued. These disclosures are included with every FHA loan closing. In addition, since the way it was handled &#8211; as a credit against your new UFMIP &#8211; is the only way FHA allows it to be done, there are unfortunately no legally recognizable financial damages from the misrepresentation.</p>
<p>However, if you complain to the management of the lender, you may get some help. They usually don&#8217;t like for their loan officers to leave a trail of unhappy customers by making such misrepresentations.</p>
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		<title>By: Bridgette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bridgette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 03:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I streamlined my loan last month and was told in writing as well as verbal by the service provider that I would be receiving a check for my MIP.  I have since discovered that the amount was credited towards my new UFMIP.  What recourse do I have for this misleading information?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I streamlined my loan last month and was told in writing as well as verbal by the service provider that I would be receiving a check for my MIP.  I have since discovered that the amount was credited towards my new UFMIP.  What recourse do I have for this misleading information?</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Hahn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug Hahn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 04:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like more information on an FHA Streamline and taking cash out. Is taking out cash for debt consolidation an option with the streamline?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like more information on an FHA Streamline and taking cash out. Is taking out cash for debt consolidation an option with the streamline?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 00:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carl
I have a guy from Metro Finance that says he can give me a 5% rate on an fha streamline refinance with no increase in my current loan amount and no upfront charges. This seems too good to be true but from what I have been able to find sounds possible. Is it and do you know anything about this company.?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carl<br />
I have a guy from Metro Finance that says he can give me a 5% rate on an fha streamline refinance with no increase in my current loan amount and no upfront charges. This seems too good to be true but from what I have been able to find sounds possible. Is it and do you know anything about this company.?</p>
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		<title>By: Carl Pruitt</title>
		<link>http://fhaloanadvice.com/fha-streamline-refinance-some-changes-effective-january-1-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-1012</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl Pruitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 18:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David,
Rates quoted in newspapers and news reports are nearly worthless for comparison. 

First, reported rates are generally only for very vanilla conventional loans under 80% loan to value on regular single family homes. These rates do not reflect the circumstances of a particular loan, such as rate add-ons for manufactured housing for example. They also don&#039;t take into account your particular loan amount, desired level of closing costs, type of loan and various other potential additions to the rate. Government rates in the market tend to be just slightly higher than conventional rates (not always but most often).

Second, these reported rates are always reporting for the past week and not the present. Rates change many times per day based upon the mortgage bond market. For instance, rates were lower last week than they are this week so far. Yet that may or may not be the case by the end of the week. The reported rates will be the rates that the week ended with, even though they may have varied significantly on any day during that week.

The best way to find a good rate is to contact different local lenders in your town. Give the loan officer all the details and let them give you an accurate timely quote rather than relying on the inaccurate and outdated information reported in the news.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,<br />
Rates quoted in newspapers and news reports are nearly worthless for comparison. </p>
<p>First, reported rates are generally only for very vanilla conventional loans under 80% loan to value on regular single family homes. These rates do not reflect the circumstances of a particular loan, such as rate add-ons for manufactured housing for example. They also don&#8217;t take into account your particular loan amount, desired level of closing costs, type of loan and various other potential additions to the rate. Government rates in the market tend to be just slightly higher than conventional rates (not always but most often).</p>
<p>Second, these reported rates are always reporting for the past week and not the present. Rates change many times per day based upon the mortgage bond market. For instance, rates were lower last week than they are this week so far. Yet that may or may not be the case by the end of the week. The reported rates will be the rates that the week ended with, even though they may have varied significantly on any day during that week.</p>
<p>The best way to find a good rate is to contact different local lenders in your town. Give the loan officer all the details and let them give you an accurate timely quote rather than relying on the inaccurate and outdated information reported in the news.</p>
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		<title>By: DAVID CADWALLADER</title>
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		<dc:creator>DAVID CADWALLADER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 17:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I NEED INFORMATION ON A STREAMLINE FOR A MANUFACTORED HOME WITH AN FHA LOAN I CHECKED WITH MY MORTGAGE CO.WELLS FARGO BUT IT WAS AROUND 5.5%  WHERE CAN I GET A LIST OF COMPANYS THAT MIGHT STREAMLINE AT THE REPORTED MID TO HIGH 4s IF THEY REPORT MID TO HIGH 4s THERE MUST BE SOMEWHERE TO GET THEM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I NEED INFORMATION ON A STREAMLINE FOR A MANUFACTORED HOME WITH AN FHA LOAN I CHECKED WITH MY MORTGAGE CO.WELLS FARGO BUT IT WAS AROUND 5.5%  WHERE CAN I GET A LIST OF COMPANYS THAT MIGHT STREAMLINE AT THE REPORTED MID TO HIGH 4s IF THEY REPORT MID TO HIGH 4s THERE MUST BE SOMEWHERE TO GET THEM</p>
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